When Animal Seizures Are Lawless, Then ALL Animal Ownership Is At Risk!!! Part 5

This country is clearly upside-down when private citizens who looted and trespassed on private property , took up donations, slandered the property owner and then SOLD the property are proclaiming they are suffering from PTSD!!! BULLSHIT!!! Just go to Houston Collie Rescue and see this for yourself-so crazy you just can’t make this stuff up!!!

“If I hadn’t seen this myself-If I hadn’t read it twice-I’d of called you a liar -But I did and read it more than twice before I fell of the bed with laughter…New claim from a theft claiming to be a rescuer…Now doesn’t she have big ones for making such a claim?!? Maybe she should seek help immediately…LOL!!!

Here it is-C/P for the Houston Collie FB page and I didn’t change a thing-

from Houston Collie Rescue, Inc.
“I was just commenting today that the rescue day is just now setting in. Its a form of PTSD. Those images keep playing over and over in our minds as we kept going back in because it needed to be done. -Vickey

What a brave heart -Removing animals from their rightful owner from chain-link cages to her chain-link cages…She suffers from PTSD, ROTFLOL!!!

The biggest BULLSHIT illegal and unconstitutional ‘RESCUE’ as a result of an order from federal bankruptcy judge who can order property to be sold for the benefit of creditors but certainly to give it away to private citizens–the Order was for private citizens to go on private property and take “ALL living things”-I am outraged!!!”

“VICTIMS of wrongful and unconstitutional taking of their property; ordered by a judge with no jurisdiction to give permission to private citizens to take and deal with that property is wrong-period…the VICTIM is suffering from PTSD-NOT YOU!!!. A bankruptcy judge who only has the authority to order the property sold (which is what YOU did) to benefit the creditors NOT to order some rescue organization to trespass on private property, take property and benefit by selling it.
YOU took donations and slandered the owner-Kemic is suffering from PTSD-NOT YOU!!! There was never even a hearing or trial on this matter-No justice was served!!!
A fleeting memory for YOU and I truly doubt that YOU will ever realize what you did was the same as looting and invading someone’s property or even realize that you and everyone who participated, including those who donated, in this should be ashamed of themselves!!! Especially the judge-OMG!!!
Kemic now living a nightmare suffers from PTSD!!! -NOT YOU!!!”

Then I received this and think I puked in my mouth a little…

from Houston Collie Rescue, Inc.:

“I received this today.”

-Vickey Willard

Entered on 9/11/14 in the United States Bankruptcy Court for the Southern District of Texas, Houston Division

RE: Elaine Ann Kmiec

This Court cannot leave unspoken its deep appreciation for Houston Collie Rescue, its many Volunteers and the Citizens of this community, this State and Country that has given their time and their money to right this unspeakable wrong. It gives the Court great comfort to know that there are so many good people willing to stand up for those living creatures that cannot speak or fend for themselves and who will not tolerate the mistreatment of life, regardless of form.

David R. Jones

United States Bankruptcy Judge

No hearing or trial of any sort-I wouldn’t be surprised if they used extortion against Kemic to get control over the property that they literally stole!!!-Maybe called it a plea bargain but wait-this was not an animal cruelty case-If you own an animal your now in jeopardy of the government just taking it from you-allowing private citizens to enter your home and property to loot…and people are actually wondering about the rise in gun owners-Are you kidding me?!?

Sometimes I just can’t help being ashamed of being an American and not due to my actions but the actions of others who truly don’t realize just how wrong they are!!!

Another blogger and another seizure…Really there are countless wrongful animal seizures bringing US citizens to their knees…

http://tyrannyandliberty.blogspot.com/2014/01/cyber-lynch-mob-attempts-to-destroy-new.html http://tyrannyandliberty.blogspot.com/2014/01/cyber-lynch-mob-attempts-to-destroy-new.html

Cyber lynch mob attempts to destroy New York dog breeder

On the internet there are multiple roving bands of animal rights activists who from long distances set up cyber lynch mobs against specific targets they have identified. One mob targeted and took down the Olympic Animal Sanctuary Washington only for some members of that internet mob to turn their attentions to a border collie breeder in New York state just 24 hours later. There are two reasons behind this campaign, 1.) to put pressure on legislators to pass a bill to outlaw dog breeding in New York and 2.) money. It’s always about the money. No, not the money the breeder is making, but the massive profit these cyber “rescuers” are making. All tax free, mostly undocumented.

At the end of December 2013, a massive cyber warfare started against a breeder called Flat Creek Border Collies in New York state, led by an animal “rescuer” named Eric Bellows. The first thing to keep in mind is that almost none of these people involved in this situation have actually ever seen the conditions they testify to extensively on the internet. They usually have one or two local people ready to take money from the public for the “rescue” and dozens of homes lined up to resell the animals too, but it is nothing more than a gigantic theft ring that law enforcement all too often goes along with. It is long past time this was ended! Would it be legal if someone started cyber warfare against you to take your car away from you because they feel they had a better garage than you do? Or if they feel that their brand of gasoline is better than the brand you are using? Of course not! Theft is theft, no matter what your intentions.

“We have over 50 homes and organizations that are ready to help these dogs and give them the homes and attention that they deserve.” Eric Bellows. Facebook post January 2, 2014.

Really? Why aren’t those 50 homes interested in helping save a dog from a local animal shelter instead of stealing one away from a home it already has? Why is it being celebrated that 50 homes are already lined up to accept stolen goods? Why is this ethical?

“Is this the place with the electric fence? Get a group together, wear rubber gloves, cut the fence and hoist them over. Liberate those dogs! Watching from Wisconsin.” Mary Meyers. Facebook post January 1, 2014. Mary Meyers goes on to say that she has just “rescued” a dog herself. I wonder how she did that. Was it the same way she’s advocating here? Stealing a dog out of someone else’s yard? If so, then the Wisconsin authorities need to investigate Mary Meyers. Theft is theft no matter what the property is. How would you like it if Mary Meyers decided she wanted YOUR dog?

Leading the lynch mob against Flat Creek is local animal rights activist Eric Bellows who runs the “Pack Ethic Rescue, Inc.” Me thinks he needs to reconsider that name. Then again, with the word “ethic” in his name, he must be ethical, right? He posted dozens of posts per day the first week of January 2014 about how the dogs were literally freezing to death and absolutely no one would help him. He posted inflammatory postings like, “This dog waited to be let inside, circling every now and again to remove the sting from her frozen paws. I fear what is waiting inside…” Just how exactly would he know this? And why would he fear what is waiting inside? Or other hysteria drawn posts like this one. “Let me know what you guys think, I am going nuts here… Their eyes are burning a hole in my heart, I can’t get their eyes out of my head… Sticking out from inside those barrels pleading for help, shivering….” Again, how would he know from a photograph that these dogs are shivering? Members of the internet lynch mob who jumped on the bandwagon posted conflicting stories about just how many dogs were “freezing to death” or “starving to death.” When that doesn’t work, there’s always the old chestnut of “dead dogs in a wheel barrel.” Funny how there is always a wheel barrel and it always has dead dogs in it. You’d think these animal rights activists could think up something new once in a while.

How many dogs are there?

“This section here has over 12 dogs and this isn’t even a quarter of the property.” Eric Bellows. Facebook post January 1, 2014. “The investigated tells me that there is only 30 dogs there… Really because when I went yesterday there was 30 in the first 4 pens…” Eric Bellows. Facebook post January 1, 2014. “By now these pups will almost be snowed in and the rest of the almost 100 dogs on the property are trying to survive the storm called Hercules which will be dumping between 12-15 inches and be minus degrees with wind chill.” Eric Bellows. Facebook post January 3, 2014.

“So along with overlooking the living conditions and lack of proper shelter but during the police visit it was determined that even though she has 60 + dogs, there are only 47 rabies compliant dogs on the property. Eric Bellows. Facebook post January 3, 2014.

“So I just can’t get straight answers, the police are calling this a hoax? I wish it was. They are telling me there are only 30 dogs on this property. Well when I went there three days ago the second you get out of your care to your left is at least 12 dogs, the “house yard” had around 15 Shitzu and 5 border collies, to the right of that at least 14 puppies ranging from 10 weeks to 6 months, beyond them 2 yards with 6 dogs a yard, beyond that is more yards more dogs, do I have to keep going to show that the police math is off? Eric Bellows. Facebook post January 3, 2014.

“On one hand you are being told to bring all pets inside to protect from elements yet on the other we are forced to watch 60 plus dogs brave the elements.” Eric Bellows. Facebook post January 4, 2014. “When I was there, there were at least 70 to 80 dogs running around that property,” said Bellows. “There was no bedding except for old, wet, nasty stuff that was in there. When I first got out of my car there were over 40 dogs within the first six or seven yards.”

40 dogs in six or seven yards? And you believe that? And just how would this animal rights activist know anything about their rabies shot records? He can’t even make up his mind how many dogs are there even when he claims he has visited this property in person. What kind of dogs are they?

Not only that but the actual breeds started changing and activists were claiming that not only were there hundreds of dogs there but there were French and English bulldogs, Shih Tzu’s, Chihauhau’s, Scottish Terriers, and later they started claiming Havanese were there too. And the puppies! Oh, help me save the puppies!!! Eric Bellows reported that they had 14 puppies they couldn’t sell that he had tried to buy off of them. Interesting. Now if they had 14 puppies for sale, then why couldn’t he buy them? That doesn’t even add up. Then it was 25 puppies with many more coming from multiple pregnant dogs. Eric Bellows is not a veterinarian and has not examined any of these dogs. He cannot possibly know if any of them are pregnant or not. But rampant speculation like this is designed to drive up internet hysteria.

“There are over 25 puppies on the ground right now maybe more and god knows how many pregnant why would you need 4 more pregnant dogs?” Eric Bellows. Facebook post January 2, 2014.

“I can not confirm the report of 2 dead dogs being removed this morning. What I can say is that when I first went there on New Years Eve there were around 11 puppies on premises. Eric Bellows. Facebook post January 4, 2014. He can not confirm? That’s sort of like the old, “when did you stop beating your wife” line…. He posted aerial photos of the property taken from online map websites claiming the property was covered in dogs, he posted on Facebook the statement that, “every inch is covered with dogs.” He posted at least 18 inflammatory stories about this breeder on January 3rd alone claiming multiple dogs were freezing and starving to death and begging for help. Others starting claiming the local authorities were “covering up” the problem leading to the lynch mob becoming even more inflamed. People were calling the local and state authorities to include politicians and the Governor, and dozens of members of the media from foreign countries and other states demanding that something be done. NYS Assemblyman James Tedisco jumped on the bandwagon and urged people to call the Governor to press him to sign the anti-dog breeder bill that was on his desk. I think we just uncovered the motivation for this cyber lynch mob.

When people attempted to point out the lies in this cyber lynch mob whipped up by Eric Bellows, they were met with comments like this: “If all you breeders would commit suicide it would be a much nicer world!!” Tim Ostrander, Facebook post January 5, 2014.

Instead of asking these people if they had ever been to America, let alone New York, and how exactly they knew what was going on there, politicians such as James Tedisco jumped to help destroy a dog breeder. Each and every bureaucrat that was contacted assured these lynch mob members that they would conduct an investigation into the target instead of demanding proof of their outrageous allegations. The state police and state veterinarians visited the property to inspect it three times in as many days and not a single violation of New York law was found. All the dogs were found to have food, water, shelter, heat, and were reportedly brought inside at night. Yet Eric Bellows kept up the daily cyber harassment.

“Collies aren’t Siberian Huskies and they’re not sled dogs,” says Eric Bellows, an animal rights activist, who lives near the Rappa Road farm, “They can take the cold but this kind of cold is on a whole other level.” WNYT.

And what exactly makes him an expert on the border collie breed? Absolutely nothing! The activists just howled louder screaming that dogs were in immediate danger of freezing to death, that all of the dogs were “limping” and other hysterical accusations, and hard-hearted authorities wouldn’t do anything about it and were “covering up” something. Just how can you tell all the way from California that a dog in someone’s back yard in New York is “limping” anyway? Other activists started passing around the rumor that the dog breeder was failing to provide any veterinarian care to her dogs.

The State Police were forced to issue a statement: “Several visits to the kennel have not revealed any violations of New York State Law or local codes. The Owner of the kennel has provided shelter, food and heated water as required.”

The truth means absolutely nothing to animal rights activists. They started calling the Governor and fellow animal rights lawyers to see if they could sue for custody of the breeders dogs. Then Eric Bellows posted “Matt Albert from NY Citizens Against Puppy Mills and Rich Rosenthal from The Lexus Project are working on helping the dogs of Flat Creek. They will be going before the judge at 2:00 at the Montgomery County Supreme Court.” January 6, 2014. What is important about this post is not only that private citizens are apparently going to court to somehow shut down a lawful breeder and potentially steal their property, but the comments. Immediately dozens of supporters of this lynch mob posted their support and more importantly, their locations.

“My heart and prayers are with you from North Carolina.”

“Good luck from Kentucky”

“Prayers and Paws Crossed from Florida”

“Paws crossed from Philadelphia Pa”

“Hoping for the best from Tucson, AZ”

“prayers from SW VA”

“Prayers and blessings from California”

“Good Luck from TN”

“Good luck from Ohio”

“Prayers from TX”

“Good luck from Toronto Canada”

“Best wishes from Germany”

Immediately after that on Eric Bellows Facebook page was a posting that said, “Help Pack Ethic Rescue Inc. every time you shop” and a link to give him donations. Why again are the New York authorities giving one ounce of time to these activists? Eric Bellows is shilling for cash, while the vast majority of his supporters do not live there. They are obviously NOT in New York and have no clue what is actually happening there. They have zero right to have a say in anything going on in Montgomery County, New York. They aren’t taxpayers and they aren’t voters. Tell them to shut up about their complaints and direct their attention to their own back yards and leave New York alone. Additionally, an investigation needs to be made into Eric Bellows who led this effort.

If you look into his back story, Eric Bellows has quite a history. He was part of the disgraced gansta “Rescue Ink” scam and went out on his own to form another rescue to collect donations from the public. I found an interesting blog that covered a case of mass hysteria on Facebook that the blog claims was founded by Eric Bellows. In this case it was a story about nails being found in scattered dog food at dog parks. The fake story was cross posted on Facebook over 15,000 times with over 12,000 comments to the story. The blog claims that he received over 1,000 new followers to his “rescue” as a result of his heart rendering “nails in dog food” pleas. I wonder how many of those followed up with monetary donations to this dirt bag? He also apparently has frequent health issues which require pleas for more monetary donations. Seriously? I’m supposed to believe this man has suffered from 13 concussions in his lifetime and is seeking treatment from 11 specialists? Who the hell is paying for that? This also makes me wonder just how he thinks he’s capable of saving 100+ dogs from Flat Creek if he gets a concussion every time he turns around? Turns out he was also involved in the campaign to destroy a long time Rottweiler breeder in Wallkill, New York. Just what exactly does this internet cowboy know about Rottweiler’s? Here’s the real story behind what happened at Wallkill. But there’s more to this, so much more. One of the serial dirtbags behind the lynch mob that destroyed the Olympic Animal Sanctuary was Scotlund Haisley. Funny enough, Eric Bellows tagged some of his Facebook posts about Flat Creek with Scotlund Haisley’s name. I wonder who is going to be the next target of one of Haisley’s illegal raids? Will it be Flat Creek? Only time will tell.

What I really want to know is, how can I tap into this never ending supply of gullible people on the Internet so I can sit on my rear day after day posting inflammatory stories about strangers on Facebook and get people to donate money to me to support my lifestyle and destroy the livelihoods of others. That’s a talent I just don’t seem to have.

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Anyone following The Houston Collie Rescue will see the near exact process for donations over an illegal and unconstitutional animal seizure…Follow the rightful owner and you may see nothing as the true suffer of PTSD as an attorney pushed for revenge for her client even though her clients dogs had been returned and should have been the end of it…Instead actually participated herself in the trespass and looing of property as a result of a judges order and justifying her actions won’t change a thing-She will NOT be receiving calls from seizure victims that’s for sure…I hope there’s money going on fake rescues as she’s lost my recommendation and support. You will no longer be seeing anything from ‘the dog lawyer’ on this blog including her opinion of the legislature process-no matter who else supports her…Me thinks this lawyer has another agenda and supporting Animal Rights Extremist Terrorists joining in on their Gestopo tactics herself-That’s the real story here-a judge and an attorney demonstrating that justice was not and will not be served as long as they continue to allow (and in this case-have the controlling factors) private citizens to use and abuse or justice system in ‘the guise of animal rescue’ where the government has no interest for the benefit of private citizens disguised as a Not for Profit and benefit from the theft of private property. Damn what BULLSHIT!!!

Disclaimer connected to this blog…Things said are of my opinion and the opinions of others…Stay tuned  -B

I highly recommend this blog: Katharine’s Musings on Liberty and Tyranny   http://tyrannyandliberty.blogspot.com/

 

 

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~ by topcatsroar on September 16, 2014.

16 Responses to “When Animal Seizures Are Lawless, Then ALL Animal Ownership Is At Risk!!! Part 5”

  1. A friend of mine sent them a questionnaire to them that is designed to have accountability and transparency……….guess they don’t think they need to be accountable and transparent because they didn’t bother to respond.

    Here’s the PM she sent, and also the questionnaire that she sent to them to fill out:

    Hi HCR,
    I was thinking of making a donation to help with the collies you rescued from a bad situation, however, I was burned badly by a horse rescue in CA ($1000 donation) when the horses my donation was supposed to be helping either were put down, and others simply disappeared somewhere (they are telling me they went to a sanctuary, but will not say which one, so I fear for their lives at this point).
    Would you be willing to fill out this attached form and return it to me and if everything looks good, I will send a money order (I won’t use PayPal anymore because they gave me trouble one time too many) to whatever address you can provide me with.
    Also, are you anywhere near Pinehurst, Texas? I have a friend that lives there and maybe she could come visit your rescue if she is close enough.

    Thank you for all you do for the collies, they are really beautiful dogs and I grew up with one named Thor when I was a kid.

    Best Regards,

    Questionnaire for Animal Rescue-Humane Societies-SPCA’s-Animal Controls and Animal Shelters

    In the interest of TRANSPARENCY and ACCOUNTABILITY for animal rescues registered with the State as a “not for profit” business entity, and also if they are registered with the IRS as a 501c3 tax exempt organization, for humane societies, for SPCA’s, and also for animal controls, potential donors can send this questionnaire to any of the above described entities that they may be contemplating supporting as a donor, as a professional in an area of expertise that they may want to donate their professional talent, expertise, and services to that could be beneficial to the animal rescue, or as a volunteer.
    The IRS and the State an animal rescue, humane society, and SPCA are registered in often do not require much in the way of line item documentation of donations received overall, where and what the money is spent on, etc.
    Some states do require that targeted/designated fundraisers must be registered with the State to avoid scams where individuals, organizations, and others ask for and receive donation money to “rescue” or “help” or “save” particular animals, to buy real estate to house the animals, to buy supplies and materials to care for the animals, vehicles to transport animals with, etc, but usually donors are not privy to how much money is received, where it is being spent, receipts are not posted, vet reports on rescued animals are not posted, daily photos and updates on animals are not forth-coming, etc.
    This questionnaire is mostly for information gathering purposes for prospective donors regarding how much money is collected for targeted/designated fundraisers that rescues frequently ask and receive donations for, “targeted” animals they are “rescuing”, real estate/land they are buying to house and maintain animals, vehicles and equipment they use for transporting and handling animals. etc.

    Going farther, the IRS and the State does not currently require public postings from rescues, humane societies, SPCA’s, or animal controls that are taking monetary donations, material goods donations, or professional services, for vet records, receipts for monies spent on targeted/designated fundraisers that many rescues hold quite frequently when they are primarily donation-funded recues (as opposed to rescues/sanctuaries/hospices who are primarily self-funded and whose owners/founders and other participants work in jobs outside of rescue), euthanasia records on animals rescued using donation money, necropsy reports, records of exactly where the rescued animals that donation money was used to rescue, rehabilitate, and maintain are residing, are they in foster care, adopted out, in a sanctuary, etc.

    So to make it simple for regular people who want to know where their donation dollars are going, this form can be sent to the rescue someone may be contemplating supporting and it should be a simple one for the animal rescue to fill out entirely in the name of accountability and transparency.

    1. Registered name of animal rescue: ___________________________________________________

    Founder/Contact person: ____________________________________________________________
    Contact Persons Telephone #: _____________________________

    Facebook Page Address for Organization: ___________________________

    I: Month and Year your organization was founded (even if your org was not registered as a non-profit yet and was a private, non-registered rescue): _____________________

    II: Rescue and/or charity entity registration # and the state registered in:______

    III: IRS Tax Exempt Organization EIN#: ___________

    IIII: Date organization became a “not-for-profit” entity with the State: _______
    IIIII: Date organization became a tax exempt organization with the IRS: ______

    Location/physical address where rescued animal/s will be taken and housed: ___________________________________________________

    IIIIII: Veterinary Hospital Name, Address, and Telephone # that you primarily use: __________________________________________________________

    Website Address:_____________________________________

    2. Name of humane society: _________________________

    Location of the humane society: _________________________________

    Are you a “not-for-profit” with the state?: __________

    If so, please list the State you are registered in, the date you registered, and your registration #: _____________________________________________

    Are you a 501c3 tax exempt organization?: __________________

    If so, please list your EIN #, the date you applied for 501c3 tax exempt status, and the date you received your approval letter from the IRS for your 501c3 status: ______________________________________
    ________________________________________________

    Contact Person/Person in charge: __________________________________

    Telephone # of contact: __________________________________________

    Email address for contact person: ___________________________________

    Facebook Page for Organization: ____________________________________

    Veterinary Hospital Name, Address, and Telephone # that you primarily use:_____________________________________________________________________________

    City/Town you reside in: ____________________________________________

    How many years in business: ______________

    Location/physical address where rescued animal/s will be taken and housed:__________________________________________________________________________

    Website Address:
    __________________________________________________________

    3. Name of SPCA: ____________________________________________________________

    Month and year your organization was founded?: _________________________________________

    Location of the SPCA: ____________________________________________________________

    How many years in business: __________________________________________________________

    Number of Members: ____________________________________________________________

    Are you a “not-for-profit” with the state?: __________

    If so, please list the State you are registered in, the date you registered, and your registration #: ____________________________________________________________________________________

    Are you a 501c3 tax exempt organization?: __________________

    If so, please list your EIN #, the date you applied for 501c3 tax exempt status, and the date you received your approval letter from the IRS for your 501c3 status: ______________________________________

    Contact Person/Person in Charge: ________________________________________________________

    Telephone # of contact: ________________________________________________________

    Email address of contact person: _________________________________________________________

    Facebook page for the organization: _______________________________________________________

    City/Town you reside in: ____________________________________________________________

    Location/physical address where animals will be taken and housed: ____________________________________________________________________________________

    Veterinary Hospital Name, Address, and Telephone # that you primarily use:__________________________________________________________________________________

    Website address: ____________________________________________________________

    4. Name of government agency if applicable: ________________________________________________
    Physical address of agency: ____________________________________________________________

    Contact Person/Person in charge: _________________________________________________________

    Contact Persons Telephone #: ____________________________________________________________

    Facebook Page for Organization: _________________________________________________________

    Website Address:
    ____________________________________________________________

    Number of years in business?: ________________________________

    5. Are you primarily an 1.) an adoption-based rescue 2. ) a sanctuary for unadoptable animals 3.) a hospice for animals with terminal illnesses and conditions 4.) or all of the above?: _________________________

    6. For all organization, whether non-profit or for-profit; please list the legal name your taxes are filed under with the State and the IRS: ________________________________________________________

    7. Please list 3 professional references including names, email addresses, and phone # of reference:

    1. ____________________________________________________
    2. ____________________________________________________
    3. _____________________________________________________

    8. Will you be self-funding with your own private and/or personal money, or donation-funding with donor and/or grant money for the care of the animal/s for this targeted/designated fundraiser?: _________________________________________________

    8. If this is a seizure of animals, a bond in the amount of ___________ is required to guarantee the care of animals. Will you post a bond in the required amount?: _________

    9. For use with seized animals: If applicable by law to the state in which the animals are located and if the seizure and/or owner surrender is primarily donation-funded, will you be registering with the Secretary of State’s office for a targeted/designated fundraiser?: ____________________________________

    10. If the rescued animal is a horse rescued from an auction or sale, will you publically post your receipt from the auction/sale yard showing the purchase price of the animal?: ________________

    11. If the rescued animal is an animal being “pulled” from an animal control/shelter, will you post the receipt for the “pull” price and any fees charged to the rescue?: _________________

    12. In the name of “transparency” to the donating public, would you be willing to post public spread sheets and screen shots of the accounting of ALL monies received through donations (with the donors information blocked out) whether through PayPal, ChipIn, GoFundMe, direct deposit to a separate bank account set up for targeted/designated rescues and fundraisers, bank-to-bank wire transfers, via credit card by card reader, etc (in other words, an accounting of ALL donations received on this targeted/designated fundraiser/rescue you are asking for donations for)? ___________________________________________

    13. In the name of “transparency” to the donating public, is this rescue, humane society, SPCA, or animal control willing to post publically ALL receipts pertaining to the rescue of the particular animals you are asking for donations for, their care, ALL receipts pertaining to their housing, their feed, medications, veterinary bills, farrier bills, (applicable to horses, ponies, burros, mules, goats, cattle, llamas, alpacas), chiropractic bills, any types of therapy i.e. massage, acupuncture, acupressure, aroma therapy, etc), any money paid to anyone associated in any way, whether volunteer, founder of rescue, etc, with the rescue of this animal/s?: _________________________________________________

    14. In the name of “transparency, on a targeted/designated fundraiser when rescuing an animal, or animals, will your organization take photos of ALL of the animals before they are removed from the owners property, post a a MINIMUM of 25 photos of the property the animals are being removed from (this is important because quite often, organizations list “deplorable conditions”, “filthy conditions”, “dangerous conditions”, etc, but the public rarely gets to see all but a few photos, and often don’t see any photos of the conditions so they can make up their own minds regarding the conditions of the property), photos of animals being loaded for transport, photos of the facility where ALL of the animals will be kept, and post daily photos of the animal/s and any treatment they will be receiving?: ____________________________________________________________

    15. Will you publically post on your Facebook page and your official website your adoption contract?:____________________________________

    16.Will you publically post the full price of the adoption fee when/if any animals that were rescued and maintained using donation money are “adopted for a fee” and a public accounting and itemized list of any monies spent for the care, housing, and maintenance for that specific adopted animal?: _______

    17. In the interest of accountability and transparency to the donating public, will you publically post your resume and any credentials , and also those of any participants involved with your rescue/organization, that will give the donating public information on your background with animals, in rescue, in the mainstream animal world, etc so they can check them out for themselves?: _____

    18. Is the founder and primary participants in the animal rescue employed in jobs and/or businesses outside of rescue? ____ If so, in what?:_________________________

    Many kind-hearted, compassionate people are unable to do “hands-on” rescuing of animals, however, they do want to participate in rescuing animals in some way and that help is often by the donation of money, feed, materials for the care of the rescued animals, professional services, etc.
    With non-profit animal rescues springing up in record numbers all over the United States in the thriving animal rescue industry, people ask questions wanting transparency, accountability, and answers that very few rescues are willing to address with all but vague answers, sometimes with evasiveness and/or combativeness, and sometimes no answers at all.

    This questionnaire makes it simple and easy for animal rescues to publically post full accountability regarding targeted fundraisers for animals they are rescuing, for materials, vehicles, real estate, and other things related to their animal rescue where they are asking for, and receiving, donations to do so.
    For targeted fundraisers, it also shows how much donation money, materials, feed, supplies, professional services, etc, are being donated, where the money is being spent (vet and others services reports), in what amounts (receipts), where animals are going in terms of foster care (names of fosters and city or town, and also state locations), adoption (name of adopter, city or town where animal is going, and state), or sadly, perhaps being euthanized (vet report and/or necropsy report), and will “paint a picture” for the public to clearly see where their kind and generous donations are going.

    Posting receipts, vet reports, daily photos, adoption contracts, and all other information that pertain to rescue organizations asking for targeted/designated donations for particular animals and/or particular items (fencing, real estate, vehicles, feed, vet services, etc) , will show the accountability and transparency of your rescue organization.

    • I wish that more people would hold these ‘rescues’ accountable-This one for the books!!! Not a single picture indicated that law enforcement was present during the seizure. Just because a judge issues an order there are still proper steps that are required to protect the property owner from other looting besides what was taken. No one was concerned about the constitutional rights of Kemic with the exception of those of us on the outside looking in.
      All these so called rescuers are after are what’s in it for them-PTSD should have never been tossed out there as a result of the experience especially when no such medical condition could have happened as a result of their rescue-I suspect she was just throwing that in for one more poor us who did the rescue-send us your hard earned money-WHAT BULLSHIT!!! Those suffering from PTSD saw right thru that one!!! -B

    • Love your questionaire. Would love to post it on my website with your by-line and permission. Please let me know.

      • Not mine however I know it’s OK!!! It was freely given!!! We need that questionnaire to go viral!!!

      • Hi, Yes, you absolutely can post the questionnaire because I want people to start sending it to any rescue who is doing “targeted/designated” fundraiser asking for donations.

        We’re also a 501c3 sanctuary/hospice for unwanted animals with various behavioral/training issues and physical issues, chronic illness, and some are terminal so we take care of them until they “tell” us they are done and we have the vet out to euthanize them. We are not usually adoption-based, but we did find ourselves with about 8 horses that don’t have issues, so we are seeking good homes for them because they deserve one-on-one attention with their own humans as their “slaves”…. lol)

        Seeing as we are not adoption-based, and since I’ve been heavily involved in the equine industry for almost 45 years, I’m sick and tired of some of these adoption-based ‘rescues’ who appear to be horse and dog brokers doing retail sales without charging their buyers sales tax as many dealers and brokers must do, and it seems like they are always asking for donations because they are donation-funded and either have none of their own money, or don’t want to spend their own money on rescuing.

        Then there is the on-going issue of them not wanting to be transparent and accountable for monies received, where is the money going, they won’t as a rule post receipts, vet reports, necropsy reports (and I call when they post they had to euthanize a horse, dog, goat, or whatever animal that just days ago was doing great, but now “it’s with a heavy heart” or then there is the “final act of kindness” post; so yes, animals do need to be put down sometimes, or they die and are found dead in a corral, but if a rescue has supposedly been using “designated donations” for that animal to be maintained, and then they have the animal “put down”, then it should be very simple to post a vet report of exactly why the animal was euthanized….most vets I work with would not jeopardize their licensing and/or their reputation by writing out a dummied-up vet report that will be scrutinized by thousands of people on a rescues FB page and/or website, and because some, often many, of these “heavy heart” deaths seem suspicious, this would force the rescues to not be simply “convenience killing” animals that have brought in as many “crisis” and/or “sympathy/pity” donations as they are going to, but they have issues, so cannot be adopted out with, or without, a fee, so they kill them after using donations to “rescue them”, and don’t even try to find a home or sanctuary they can go to, and one horse rescue I know asked for donations for a younger horse in his prime found dead in his stall to pay for a necropsy but then never posted the results….so was a necropsy done, or not, and if it was done, what are the results?), show how a big pet food company has perhaps donated more than enough food to take care of the animals, and this seizure/raid-thing is a racket pure and simple in most cases.

        So even though we hardly ever ask for donations from hard-working “regular people”, if this questionnaire was sent to us (which is unlikely since we’re primarily self-funding and work in a business outside of rescue), I could easily and gladly fill it out and return it to the prospective donor to make them more comfortable donating to us and knowing the donations really are going for what we are asking donations for on a ‘targeted/designated fundraiser.

        If you’ll send me your email address to laurab9506@gmail.com, I’ll send the questionnaire as an attachment so it is in the correct format.
        I also have another questionnaire that I’ll send which is specifically for seizures/raids to be filled out BEFORE a ‘rescue’ steps on someone’s property.
        That questionnaire would be one to take to the states attorney generals office, to tax payer funded animal controls (and we’d be able to clearly judge whether an animal control is in cahoots with rescues, or not. If they refuse to make it a requirement that rescues, humane societies, and spca’s fill it out BEFORE a seizure/raid, or the rescue trying to intimidate people into surrendering their animals, then they are probably “in” with the rescue running a seizure scam, so they need to be “outted” to the public as not being cooperative, and not in collusion with rescues that do seizures), to the city, town, or counties District Attorney’s offices, to county managers, etc……that questionnaire will educate those in government offices and positions, which are operating off of tax payer dollars BTW, just by the questions asked of rescues that many of these rescues are unfortunately swindlers, and it is getting worse and worse.

        Thank you for your interest in the questionnaires; I think it will make a big difference in seizures/raids being done for profit by scammer rescues and it really isn’t about the animals at all, and real rescues who just want to help animals being easily able to fill either questionnaire out (real rescues in my opinion rarely do seizures/raids, and they often try to help people with their animals right where the animals live. I have no problem with them asking for help through donations because they aren’t using seizures and raids as a 1st course of action and then evaluating after 30 days, than 60 days, and so-forth).

      • United we will stand-Working together is the only way to expose the truth to send on to our lawmakers. That questionnaire needs to go viral…Once again, TY Laura for your hard work -B

      • Thanks Laura Bell, just sent you an email.

  2. And no, a rescuer that suffers from PTSD should not be allowed to participate in seizures and raids because they have “issues” that need to be dealt with by a mental health professional, and shouldn’t be allowed to go out and screw with other peoples lives just because they are messed up mentally.

    Awesome blog entry BTW, really great work you’ve done to expose the “do-gooders who ARE doing bad” because they suffer from a hero-complex, they are addicted to the drama of rescue, and all that free donation money that comes pouring in by naïve people who don’t care to “look behind the curtain” to see what is really going on……power, control, $$$, and being able to act out the negative side of human nature when they attack without facts, and refuse to see and hear the FACTUAL truth.

  3. Kudos to you again To Cat!

  4. LOVE the questionaire for the “rescues”! After all, if the rescues can ask questions of the potential adopters, they should be willing to do the same

  5. I dislike self-righteous animal “rescuers.”

    The ethical thing to do in these situations is work with the owners of the animals if you believe they are being abused. Why not donate insulated dog houses if you’re afraid the animals are freezing? Why is the first step always stealing the animals instead of talking it out with the owner?

    These animals have a place to stay, by stealing them all they are doing is taking away space for animals that have no place to stay.

    They accuse breeders of “taking away homes” of shelter animals, yet they are doing the same thing by filling up their cages with animals that already have a place to stay.

    The only sane conclusion for why rescues pull these shenanigans is simply because they want to boost the image of their rescue and receive more donations. Note how these groups often never make it public what the fate is of all the animals they “rescue,” yet they happily demonize the original owners.

    • Your points are well received here…and one of the reasons I began this blog…FAKE ‘RESCUE’…animals usually killed in the process, lives destroyed and family units dissolved all too often for good and I don’t mean that as ‘good’…Already seeing that happening to people who had a nice family and were guilty of nothing-set up to take a fall and very sad for these folks.

    • Rabbit, you are absolutely correct; with the “rescue that isn’t” who attacked us, I always know when they are running low on money because they either do a “seizure” with hardly any information at all except for the FACT they are begging for donations and/or they go to the auction and talk about how they “outbid the kill buyers” when the fact is that since they are in CA where buying or selling horses with the intention of having them exported out of the US for slaughter has been ILLEGAL since 1998.
      I’m also from CA, but moved out of state before that law was passed. However, if I were still residing in CA, I’d be the one “wearing the wire” to record kill buyers implicating themselves in dealing in commercial horse slaughter.

      So any adoption-based, donation-funded horse rescue that says they are anti-horse slaughter is full of crap because without being able to exploit that, they’d be almost dead in the water.

      The other reason besides wanting to collect “crisis” and “sympathy” donations when they do seizures is the fact they don’t want to have to account for every penny coming in, where and what its being spent on, they don’t want to have to show bunches of photos of horses, or show receipts and vet reports, and also don’t want to have to show necropsy reports when they HAD to put yet another horse down.
      And if they were instead of doing seizures they were actually try to help the animals and the owners right at their own place, they wouldn’t be able to trash them publically, and they also wouldn’t be able to get away with “staging” photos, and doing photo-op’s using all kinds of “props” including their own children…..these are some disgusting, ruthless, uncivilized people we’re dealing with, so in order to expose them, we need to put them on the spot by asking questions from questionnaires we send them to fill out, to posting comments challenging them to deal in FACTS.

      When they stutter and stumble over themselves trying to come up with explanations regarding “where, what, and why”, more and more people will begin to see exactly who they are, and exactly what scams they are working….then hopefully they’ll go “bye-bye” and the real rescues will still be in existence, ready and willing to help animals AND their owners too.

  6. Also, I can’t help but notice a lot of animal rescuers that support raid and seizure type “rescues,” are misanthropes.

    I looked up the Flat Creek Border Collie thing and saw people calling for the breeder to be executed, with no one disagreeing with them. I see comments like these all the time on articles about large scale animal raid “rescues.”

    So I also have to also wonder if they participate/support animal raids because it brings misery and shame upon the owner, regardless of whether any abuse was going on or whether the abuse was intentional, which they delight in.

    Just look at the OAS thing. People calling the sanctuary owner a psychopath and monster, when the most reasonable thing to believe is he simply got in over his head, and was reluctant to turn down dogs because he knew they would be killed, and he didn’t want to be responsible for a dog being put down.

    The people demonizing him did not offer one cent to help him out, yet they will gladly steal his animals to make their own rescues look good, all while asking other people to give them money to care for the dogs.

    If the man was a hoarder, hoarding is often done out of mental illness and not out of intentional malice. They will stick up for dogs that maul children unprovoked, yet have not an ounce of compassion to offer to a fellow human being.

    Just imagine how much better things would have been for the people and the animals if these animal groups would have helped this man raise the money to care for his animals instead of tear him down and confiscate the animals.

    • People don’t get that anymore Rabbit-I call it a Random Act of Kindness-used to be we called it the neighborly thing to do. Now more like neighbors revenge and a way to get rid of the animals and maybe the neighbors too-Do they actually think they can get better than someone who loves animals and kind to animals?!? “hoarding”-HA! Who wasn’t taught as a child to cherish what they have?!? There’s coin collections, stamp collections and even old ladies who collect tea cups-the majority of animal owners accused of “Hoarding” never intended to have that many animals in the first place and if they are giving the animals a good home-found to be reasonably health just who did it hurt?!? NO ONE!!! But the animals become the evidence and victims of a FAKE crime and the people the victims of the law.
      Animal cruelty laws were written with the express interest for INTENTIONAL abuse and gone way past that now-See my next blog post and ask yourself what’s next because I sure didn’t se this one coming!!! -B

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