Animal Welfare v Animal Rights ~”SKINNED ALIVE IS A MYTH”

BREAKING NEWS!!! ~CAUGHT once again!!!

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/10725315.Row_as_animal_circus_arrives_at_Queensbury/?action=complain&cid=12078220

The German High Court found PeTA guilty of paying people to skin animals alive. The witness who committed this act for PeTA, a videographer, told the court that he didn’t understand why they wanted it done that way, but he needed the money. This video was made in a third world country and the prosecutor found the man in the video who skinned the animal.

The German High court also found PeTA’s vet who had made the charges against the agricultural industry in Germany guilty of making false charges and in the verdict required PeTA to turn over all information about their videos and to list all person in their videos so they could be contacted to determine the facts presented in the videos. To date, PeTA has not turned over any videos or information. One has to conclude that… all of their videos on skinning animals alive were paid for by PeTA and therefore do not represent the norm. These organizations cannot stand up to the scrutiny of the courts as now PeTA and HSUS are being sued under the RICO act for racketeering.

Both HSUS and PeTA send out releases without any real studies performed. The German High court found PeTA guilty of staging videos and causing animal abuse. For years the public has been subjected to images of animal abuse that have been manipulated and staged. Such images have been used to damage the reputations of legitimate businesses. Legal action was taken against Dr. Edmund Haferbeck of PeTA Germany and a Board member after showing faked videos. This material had the effect of discrediting the quality security system and its legitimate partners.“We are pleased about this very clear outcome of the lawsuit against Dr. Haferbeck”,commentates Dr. Walter Scheuerl, the QS’ attorney on their success. In a parallel procedure against PeTA Germany and a PeTA Board member, the chamber ruled that PeTA must provide proof regarding the origin of the photos and the film footage which PeTA has been using.

And so, next time you see AR propaganda realize that they manufacture a great deal of these stories and even create the animal cruelty they preach against! All in the name of ripping at our Heart$tring$ in order to pick our pocket$.

In the US PETA have also been prosecuted (successfully) for ‘dumping’ the carcasses of animals they have Euthanised into skips”

http://www.furcommission.com/peta-admits-skinned-alive-is-a-myth-and-slander-chinese/

PETA ADMITS “SKINNED ALIVE IS A MYTH” and

slander the Chinese

PETAskinningadmission

In a formal statement PETA states:

“PETA is not suggesting that animals are routinely skinned alive, but it does happen, a lot. It happens because the welfare of an individual animal is not important enough to slow down fur farm workers, who may slaughter and skin hundreds of animals a day. Skinning animals alive is not a practical way to do things, and PETA has never suggested that animals are intentionally slaughtered this way. We have, however, made clear that because of the carelessness of fast-working fur farmers, animals are often not killed—only rendered unconscious—prior to skinning. Meaning that some of these animals wake up while their skin is being torn from their body.”

“The reality is that China is both the largest producer and the largest consumer of fur, so it’s to be expected that PETA and other animal rights groups would be working hard and using powerful imagery to make sure that Chinese consumers are aware of the cruelty behind every fur coat, collar, and cuff and every bit of fur trim. “

http://shanghaiist.com/2013/09/09/peta_asiapacific_responds_to_shanghaiists_criticism_of_fur_hurts_campaign.php

On top of paying a person to skin an animal alive in a staged video and losing in a German Court of Law for Fraud for using the video in their country  in violation of the  Truth in Advertising Laws.

40 years ago, a man filmed skinning a seal alive ended up signing an affidavit confessing he had been paid by animal rights activists to commit this atrocity. The film was made to prey on the young, emotionally immature, impressionable people searching for a cause to champion as well as those who are easily manipulated into joining a cause based on lies and deceit. Why? For profit. $$

http://www.furcommission.com/chinese-fur-farms-media-wary-of-latest-shock-video-3/  

The “Chinese dog fur” story is the latest in a long series of animal-rights videos about which doubts have been raised.

The video “portrayed the callous treatment of cats and dogs in China and allegations that they are being used in the fur industry.” The CRTC noted that anti-fur advocates could not vouch that these products were being sold in Canada, and that “There is also some question about the credibility of this particular video, even though it was aired on NBC’s Dateline.”

The CBC’s investigative team found that, although SweepsFeed execs now admit they had no way to know whether the story was true, they nonetheless distributed it to television stations which, in turn, broadcast the tape believing that its accuracy had been verified. The dubious origins of this widely publicized “dog fur” story were uncovered as part of an UnderCurrents investigation of how “canned news” is eroding the journalistic ethic that requires media to verify the sources and accuracy of stories they report.

http://www.furcommission.com/credibility-of-chinese-dog-fur-story-questioned-3/ 

“Initial investigations found skinning a live animal is bad for fur quality and also decreases production efficiency, so it is by no means used since fur quality matters.”

~Zhuo Rongsheng, the director of the wildlife and plants protection

“Pictures showing animals being skinned alive are obviously plotted. All those with common sense would not choose this slaughter method to attain fur.” The government of Suning County, Hebei Province also issued a statement outlining welfare practices on its fur farms, calling the alleged practice of skinning animals alive “unimaginable”, and urging Swiss Animal Protection Organization to “respect the truth”.

http://www.furcommission.com/saving-society-from-animal-snuff-films/ 

In the UK material produced by AR groups has repeatedly fallen foul of the Advertising Standards Authority. Aside from the examples cited elsewhere in this FAQ, the following AR claims (by the National Anti Vivisection Society) were found not to meet the ASA’s ‘legal, decent, honest, truthful’ standard in 1994 (ASA ref. B93-00281):

http://www.armyths.org/

German court orders PETA to provide origins of their videos

Original document in german at: http://www.q-s.info/fileadmin/QS_Fil…_Haferbeck.pdfQS_Fil…_Haferbeck.pdf

TRANSLATION: Peta Germany’s scientific advisor, Dr. Edmund Haferbeck, convicted and PeTA to issue proof of origin of photos

On 24.7. 2009, QS (a German quality standard company) successfully sued the scientific advisor of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PeTA) Germany for issuing incorrect factual statements at the regional court of Hamburg.   Legal action was taken against Dr. Edmund Haferbeck of PeTA Germany and a Board member, after shocking photos and film footage of animal rearing enterprises and statements that the enterprises shown therein participated in the QS system. This material had the effect of discrediting the quality security system and its legitimate partners.

“We are pleased about this very clear outcome of the lawsuit against Dr. Haferbeck”,commentates Dr. Walter Scheuerl, the QS’ attorney on their success.

In a parallel procedure against PeTA Germany and a PeTA Board member, the chamber ruled that PeTA must provide proof regarding the origin of the photos and the film footage which PeTA has been using.

Notes:

The standards defined by QS specify strict, verifiable production criteria for all stages of the value added chain – from the animal feed economy to the food retail trade- (meat, fruit, vegetables, etc).

PeTA’s Dr. Haferbeck had stated that “QS operates deliberate deceptions” and “QS lies systematically”.

Read more: http://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/723693-german-court-orders-peta-provide-origins.html#ixzz1ugDdXxAQforum/politics-other-controversies/723693-german-court-orders-peta-provide-origins.html#ixzz1ugDdXxAQ

The German High Court found PeTA guilty of paying people to skin animals alive. The witness who committed this act for PeTA, a videographer, told the court that he didn’t understand why they wanted it done that way, but he needed the money. This video was made in a third world country and the prosecutor found the man in the video who skinned the animal.

http://naia.typepad.com/naia/2012/01/aint-no-fun-when-the-shoes-on-the-other-hoof.html

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Source:

Facebook: Real Women Wear Fur PETA admits “SKINNED ALIVE IS A MYTH” and they intentionally slander Chinese. September 9, 2013 https://www.facebook.com/notes/real-women-wear-fur/peta-admits-skinned-alive-is-a-myth-and-they-intentionally-slander-chinese/701702739844129

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When your animals are sent to PETA recommended facilities and the organization supports HSUS you can not help but wonder how long they managed to survive!!!

When the call came in from Wisconsin about the noise in East Texas why did they not listen to the truth?!?

Everything I had said was the truth and they ignored the truth and outright LIED to the media

…there was no conviction because there was no abuse and they kept every single animal-the ones that survived this raid on a US citizen and STOLE the property.

The courts are ignoring the truth of my civil suits and not allowing them to be heard at jury trial…

How many US citizens have sought justice and been shot down because the lawyers have made a mockery of our justice system and judges enjoying their game-AGAIN I have to ask, Where is the FBI to protect US citizens from civil liberty abuse?!?

Disclaimer connected to this blog…Things said are of my opinion and the opinion of others…Stay tuned  -B

 

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~ by topcatsroar on October 19, 2013.

36 Responses to “Animal Welfare v Animal Rights ~”SKINNED ALIVE IS A MYTH””

  1. MONEY talks! These “holier than thou” CROOKS are of the worst mentality! They torture the very animals which they make horrendous videos of, thereby EXTORTING the MONEY from the MOST VULNERABLE of our society. OUR elderly who love their own animals are persuaded through this PROPAGANDA CREATED BY THE HUMANE SOCIETIES AND PETA AND THEIR OFFSPRINGS, to donate the money which should be buying food for their own table, to these organizations. our young and impressionable children are being fed a line of bull based on erroneous information and organization created information all based on lies. Human nature with its ability to use a whole lot of imagination when given a slight view of something horrid, such as an animal being skinned alive, in addition to life exposure to “assumed but unproven incidences” & practices of abuse CAN CREATE A HORRIBLE DISJUSTICE TO INNOCENT PEOPLE! THE PARTICIPANTS THEMSELVES SHOULD BE IMPRISONED WITH NO ACCESS TO OTHER HUMANS OR ANIMALS EVER AGAIN!!!! SHAMEFUL! WHAT they have done to these animals and blamed on others, all in the name of the “allmighty dollar”!

  2. You have got to be kidding me. Don’t turn this around on PETA. The abuse that PETA is depicting is what happens everyday. They just could not get in to catch most of you in the act. Because you would not let them in. GOD knows how bad things are for the animal industries. FOOD & FUR….Who do you thing you are kidding.

    • Got a PETA supporter here-REALLY!?! I didn’t know there were any left, LOL!!! Just young actresses wanting to go nude for the ‘exposure’ of it (no pun intended) and the HARD CORE VEGANS-Which might you be?!? -B

      • Twisted site if I ever came across one in my life?

      • And don’t let the door kick you in the arse’…As long as your eyes are closed then you fail to know the truth…PETA is noting but a group of Animal Right’s Extremists with the highest kill rate in the country…

      • Perhaps but are making the people aware that what they do, kill animals to feed themselves, is INHUMAN , as you seem to be suggesting. Agree?

      • I have no problem eating meat and support a persons right to do so. But if we are going to kill an animal for food we should use all the animal. Your choice to disagree and I really don’t have a problem with that as long as you aren’t pushing what you believe on me. Newkirk is following the practices Adolph Hitler…look it up…HSUS is PETA with neck ties-I assume you have no problem with the Animal Rights Extremist-Terrorists and their pushing their agenda that infringes on my freedom as a US citizen. This blog is dedicated for animal welfare. If you are pro AR then this blog isn’t for you and you have stumbled onto the wrong site to support your beliefs. -B

    • peta are the proven guilty ones when it comes to animal torture, attempted exterminations of entire dog lines. the fact is that skinning an animal alive woudl take so long that peta shoots itself in its own foot when it talks about how many furs are skinned per day. even that to the side more of the furs would be destroyed in they tried to skin alive than would be in that in order to make money resulting in the business failing. Peta has a long history of animal abuse , animal genocide and insane opposition to the disabled calling us animal abusers because we train our own service animals. Peta also takes an insane stance agsint the use of animals in medical, genetic engineering for the production of medication. if they had the it way millions would die simply because they could not get life saving treatments or medications that can only be gotten from transgenic lab animals. you want to make life better for animals shut Peta down. hey are fraudulent and simply milk people for donations. even more funny, though sad due to their hate and ignorance, is that one to the idols of PETA and other like groups is Jeremy Bentham a a philosopher form the mid 17oos though the 1830s, was a man that designed the panoptican a prison system used that if used woudl have driven all inmates insane , which has been adopted in large by modern prisons. Worse yet but more funny his main philosophical influences was that of the greater good for the greater many, meaning that animal testing, creating transgenic animals and other things PETA would consider unethical and evil would be seen as right by Jeremy Bentham

    • Oh good, a Peta Supporter… Allow me to introduce you to this website: https://www.petakillsanimals.com/proof-peta-kills/#petakills You’re precious PETA has such a great track record of killing majority of adoptable pets they bring in. Not to mention they have a history of taking in animals that were actually already rescued..and killing them before the van pulled out of the driveway.

    • PETA can’t catch people in the act of cruelty they depict, so they must stage it themselves. Why can’t they catch people in the food and fur industry committing these atrocities? That’s simple, because it doesn’t happen. The only barbarians being cruel to animals out there are the PETA activists. They torture animals deliberately to con money out of people like you. And they’re getting rich doing it.

      • I truly believe that PETA is running out of gas however HSUS and HSLN have a strong gripe in government affairs and causing a great deal of damage to American Animal Culture with the creation of emotionally driven laws as well as ALDF filing bogus law suits. Note: Emotionally driven bills and laws created with false information and depicting non existent issues of cruelty. ASPCA is dealing a strong emotional message; running their commercials endlessly with the claim of cruelty and abuse; lacking a disclaimer that the animals shown are dramatizations. -B

  3. Listen, has anyone ever been to YOUTUBE….The videos on it are not bought and staged. So you tell me, did PETA do it so it could be brought to our attention or for the money? It takes some serious stuff to get us lazy ass Americans to make a move….Because we seem to look the other way when it comes to satisfying our needs…..

  4. Is this a myth? Looks like they went to a lot of trouble to fabricate it so.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7ce_1367100652

    • This is what is explained as a set up by PETA…Of course they went to a lot of trouble AND expense to fabricate it…How many attorneys does HSUS have?!? How many cases has ALDF stuck their nose in? How many animals were slaughtered by PETA/Newkirk last year? You honestly think they would give it a second thought?

  5. People would say anything to make them feel better when in fact they know that they are guilty. Why people don’t stop buying animal products where animals been hurt. Animals feel pain too.

    • I’m not sure you understand the post or that I understand the comment but TY for your reading and your comment-Hope you will follow this blog -B

  6. You say “And so, next time you see AR propaganda realize that they manufacture a great deal of these stories and even create the animal cruelty they preach against! All in the name of ripping at our Heart$tring$ in order to pick our pocket$”. Kindly keep your $$$$$$ safe! We will try our best to keep animals safe!

    • I guess you’ve bought into the PETA pretend story of animals being skinned alive hook, line and sinker…You poor SAP-PETA is counting on it.

  7. I’m afraid this still does not make me support the fur industry. I think the animals suffer greatly from being kept in tiny cages and their deaths are far from humane. Any person with an ounce of compassion should avoid fur at all costs.

    • No one said run out and support the fur industry-This exposes PETA corruption…More level minded people have been corrupt by people but once the truth is exposed you did exactly what was expected-Decide where YOU stand on the issue…not because you were brainwashed. I will continue to support all animal usage-period!!! Many a zoo support their animals raising animals for the fur industry…I was at their zoos and also saw how those animals were raised-There was no difference in how the animas were raised yet when buying fur became unpopular; zoos began to shut down as the raising of these fur bearing animals became an expense rather than a money maker…Was PETA and these other extremist organizations aware of this-you bet…they wanted those wonderful mom and pop zoos shut down and succeeded with their real goal.
      The attacks are now on farm animals being raised for food from eggs to meat…so what started against fur has led to the ultimate goal-End all animal usage. Where does it stop and where do you draw the line!?! -B It’s not about the animals-It’s all about the money!!!

  8. PETA is a false-flag operation run by the government and the animal industry. Its sole purpose is to discredit legitimate animal welfare activists, and when that doesn’t work, they send their agents provocateurs such as YouTube “vegans” CDLver and Kay7271 to incite violent rhetoric from their targets so they can report their targets to the NSA and the FBI. These provocateurs go by many names: CDLver, Kay7271, and David Martosko.

    BTW CDLver is definitely a federal agent. I conned the sucker into clicking onto a link to my blog (which has Statcounter tracking), and guess where the click originated from? From the Department of Homeland Security. CDLver is an agent provocateur. This info needs to be spread worldwide.

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  10. I’m trying to find some articles to cite about this, but I can’t find any. What articles/references did you use when writing this post? I’d appreciate it if you could upload some links or where I can find the sources. I work to expose PETA and the HSUS to the public, but I can only do so if I have verifiable sources.

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  13. Besides skinning live animals (hello Hermes expose), animals are also clubbed to death and electrocuted to death, including seals, dogs, foxes, chinchillas and minks. The moral of the story is that if you think it’s fashionable to wear dead animal carcasses, there’s something fundamentally disturbing about your willingness to inflict such suffering on another living being.

    • Damn, you missed the point of this post all the way around. Furthermore, wearing fur is not wearing an animal’s carcass-You might want to look up the ‘bigger’ words before posting a comment anywhere…I don’t mean to be rude but found myself laughing at your comment…opps…

  14. Also, do you happen to have a copy of the original german pdf from your “q-s.info” link somewhere on your harddrive? That link doesn’t work anymore and I can’t find a copy of that pdf anywhere.

    https://www.q-s.de/fileadmin/QS_Fileadmin/tt_news/09_07_24_PM_LG_Unterlassungs-_und_Feststellungsklage_Haferbeck.pdf

    Without this PDF there is no real proof that PETA skinned animals.

    Your Citydata link also doesn’t work anymore. Here’s a saved archive.org link to it.

    http://web.archive.org/web/20100508144711/http://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/723693-german-court-orders-peta-provide-origins.html

  15. It’s the very special People who strive to protect all forms of life. How sad that we have to be duped by what we thought was an organization who shared our respect and love for animals and hatred for all forms of cruelty. Who can we trust? What animal interest group is there that isn’t a money hungry greedy business like all others? No kill shelters get away with saying they are no kill because they send their animals out to kill shelters. Staging and performing cruelty on animals to tear at our heart strings is morally wrong and just as atrocious as the actual cruelty towards animals that does go on everyday on this planet. If Peta and other so called animal rights groups care more about profit at the expense of animals and preying on our hearts , they are just as heartless and cruel as the people they are pointing their finger at. Isn’t there anyone out there that really cares ? Until mankind learns to respect all forms of life it will never evolve. As I see it mankind seems to be going backwards.

    • May I offer a few suggestions-I know where the money is going at GW Exotics, you might consider donating there. The place is stunning, I’ve been there numerous times-Joe Exotic is running for President as an independent and could use a few donations to get on the ballot-each state is a grand or better each from what I understand-not above being wrong about the cost…He’s making a point for the animals and his platform outstanding-Check him out!!!
      If you don’t care for those suggestions try an orphanage-When’s the last time anyone has given the orphanage a single thought?!?…TY for your response!!! -B

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